converting SCT tune to Cal Edit tune

psycholx · Post by **psycholx** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:39 am

i have a SCT tune on my stang, Iwent back to the tuner to get the file. He told me it would have a different file extension than the cal edit uses. Is there a way to convert the file so that it can be used in Cal Edit to reflash my tweecer. He said the extension was like an .sct or something. Basically what I am asking is what the tweecer guys use to read and chip and send us back the tune. He would do it if only I knew what software to use. I hope I didn't confuse anyone.
Thanks.
a proud tweecer owner - still learning
Billy

boss96 · Post by **boss96** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:00 am

Talk to Mike Glover about that, he should be able to read the chip for you.
Bob

psycholx · Post by **psycholx** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:30 am

boss96 wrote:Talk to Mike Glover about that, he should be able to read the chip for you.
Bob

I know Mike does it, but I have to send the chip for a few weeks. My tuner told me he would give me the tune, but it probably is different from the Cal Edit software. Is there a way to convert so that I may save myself a week or two.
Thanks
Billy

86GT · Post by **86GT** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:40 am

If your tuner said he could do it ask him what format he can save it in. If it is *.BIN then you will be able to read it with the TwEECer.

The other option is to check out the Moates site. They have hardware that they sell that can read the chips and save them to Bin files.

wido78 · Post by **wido78** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:02 pm

Do you know which piece of hardware will allow me to read an SCT chip?

86GT · Post by **86GT** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:07 pm

It is called BURN1 and the F2A.

wido78 · Post by **wido78** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:53 pm

So could I actually reburn my TwEECer program onto my SCT chip with this hardware? Or burn a new program for a friend?

wido78 · Post by **wido78** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:56 pm

HAve you used this hardware? Does it come with software and is it simple to use?

86GT · Post by **86GT** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:08 pm

I do not think you will be able to reburn the SCT with the Moates stuff. The F3 chip from Moates is something like 60 bucks and you can reburn it that chip as many times as you want.

I personally have not used the harware, but Paul Thornton has. He said it works good. The software that is used to edit the binary is the Tuner Pro.

blk91gt · Post by **blk91gt** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:23 am

Can the moats stuff read an autologic chip?

86GT · Post by **86GT** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:59 am

You can ask craig at Moates and he will be able to answer that question.

sailorbob · Post by **sailorbob** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:42 am

I use Craigs stuff and found that it cannot read some aftermarket chips (eg Superchips and a few of the homegrown tuning firms over here in the UK). There are people out there though (eg Mike Glover) who can do it as they have the right hardware. As Clint says, your best bet is to ask your tuner if he can save the tune as a .bin file. Failing that, get a copy of the .sct file and see if it's just a .bin renamed with a different extension.

codedout · Post by **codedout** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:05 pm

This comes directly fro Craig Moates:

> From what I understand, the BURN1+F2A can be used to read the contents of
> both SCT modules as well as Tweecer hardware. You can then back that
> information up to a chip module like the F3.
>
> Best regards,
> Craig Moates

Hope it helps

Dale McPeters · Post by **Dale McPeters** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:08 pm

boss96 wrote:Talk to Mike Glover about that, he should be able to read the chip for you.
Bob

This is the best way to do it.

codeout wrote: This comes directly fro Craig Moates:

> From what I understand, the BURN1+F2A can be used to read the contents of
> both SCT modules as well as Tweecer hardware. You can then back that
> information up to a chip module like the F3.
>
> Best regards,
> Craig Moates

Hope it helps

It is no where near that simple if you want the true binary file. The actual binaries are encrypted etc. etc......

sailorbob · Post by **sailorbob** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:59 pm

Dale McPeters wrote:The actual binaries are encrypted

This will only be a problem if you extract the EEPROM from the chip adapter and try to read it in a programmer though.

codedout · Post by **codedout** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:20 pm

I was thinking the same thing as sailorbob, if the J3 port can read it then it can't be encrypted on that side of the chip. If this were the case then the Eec would have to know the encryption.

Dale McPeters · Post by **Dale McPeters** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:33 am

sailorbob wrote:
Dale McPeters wrote:The actual binaries are encrypted
This will only be a problem if you extract the EEPROM from the chip adapter and try to read it in a programmer though.

This true on some but not all J3 modules...
I have two name brand J3 modules that I am
tinkering with that I can not get anything at all.... :?
And the car runs fine when it is plugged in....

I do not know why I am even tinkering with them
as I do not even need anything off of them...

codedout · Post by **codedout** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:45 am

Its says it right under you name "Tuning Addict"

I have heard that some of them do wierd things, what strikes me as strange... UNless ford has some built in encryption that we dont know about that they do it should all be good.

Would be nice to find someone that has a good logic analyser to put between the J3 port and the chip to see what is going on on the 2 that y ou are having issues with.

sailorbob · Post by **sailorbob** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:32 am

Dale McPeters wrote:I have two name brand J3 modules that I am tinkering with that I can not get anything at all..

I suspect this might be down to a timing issue or maybe the chip is set up to only use the STROBE\ or the TSTSTB\ and your reader is using the other line.

Dale McPeters wrote:I do not know why I am even tinkering with them as I do not even need anything off of them...

Probably the same reason the rest of us are playing with the eec :D

codedout · Post by **codedout** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:54 am

This is one of those hobbies where they saying "Knowledge is power" really works

Dale McPeters · Post by **Dale McPeters** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:29 pm

codedout wrote:Its says it right under you name "Tuning Addict"

Yep that would be me.

sailorbob wrote:I suspect this might be down to a timing issue or maybe the chip is set up to only use the STROBE\ or the TSTSTB\ and your reader is using the other line.

Yep that is what it was...

sailorbob wrote: Probably the same reason the rest of us are playing with the eec :D

Yep.....

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